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Philia, Agape, and confusion.

I'll start off this post with something really original: I've been thinking a lot about X :P See...my hooks are horrible! Anyway, I have been thinking a lot about friendship, and the difference between loving certain people as friends, and loving people overall out of selfless Godly love, and how these interact with one another. So...first of all we have to decide what Friendship is...here we'll pull out the Greek card and call it "Philia". So...being curious of what Aristotle thought the first place to look was of course Wikipedia!

Okay, anyway...Aristotle placed Philia into three categories: Friendships of unity, friendships of pleasure, and friendships of the "good" The first one, friendships of unity...might be called what C.S. Lewis meant by the word in "the four loves" that the friendship is formed not from attention to one another, but by a mutual goal in mind, sort of...drawing people together in unity of a goal, and they become friends, and come to love one another in quite a selfless way, or almost similar to a natual affection. The more I think about this...the less it seems to be the truest kind of friendship. Lewis says that the friendship has to be "about" something....I disagree.
The second one, friendship of pleasure is basically friends which you share a common interest with...you both enjoy arguing, or you both like golf...or what an Irishman might call a "drinking buddy".
The third, and what Aristotle calls the highest form of Philia is friendship for the other persons sake. You like their Character, and are concerned for them. From "Rhetoric" "wanting for someone what one thinks good, for his sake and not for one's own, and being inclined, so far as one can, to do such things for him"

Now all of that is basically from wikipedia...now I have some ideas about it. I think that the third is in essense "friendship", or "philia" and the other two are either ends of their own, or means on which become become real "friends"...Katie has noted though that I have a quite narrow view of friendship. The first, of having a mutual goal...the trouble comes when that goal is gone...are you still "friends?" do you love each other? I think you can, through having a common goal you come to love that person for their own sake, because they are them. The second of having something in common is also a great way to become friends at first...and sometimes it never goes farther than having that mutual hobby or interest, but sometimes as you spend time with this person you slowly come to love them for them as well.

Here is the real issue that is coming to me: How much of my friendships are selfish? Am I only their friend because they make me happy? Now I am certain that that is not all of it...but it is some of it. I know that no matter how much I love someone a part of it is always selfish. But I know that if Micah were to go into a comma and be unable to move or speak I would still love him, and my grief would not only come from my happiness being taken away. I ask myself sometimes (wow this post is disorganized) why do I love my friends more than someone I don't know? Is it only because they make me happy?
I think the answer is simply that I have spent more time with them...there is that intouchable element of "closeness" that only comes with time.

Here it is:
Philia can be selfish, but it doens't have to be. Lewis talks about Eros in the four loves saying that if it is not under the guidence of God, and under "Agape" or selfless love, then it first is set up as a "God" and then becomes a devil, when the other person no longer meets YOUR needs. I think Philia is the same, if it is under God's guidence and Agape love than it is a good friendship, if it is not, then it falls. Let it be noted that non-christians can love selflessly too...I am convinced that that is true. This post is all a "quagmire of confusion" but...what i mean is that any love that is not based in selfless love falls, and...I know I love my friends selfishly, but I also know that I love them selflessly as well. And I will always need God's help to help me to love them more and more selflessly.

Okay...I just can't seem to finish what I'm saying...and you're all going to be so confused by this posts disorganization...but there is a part of loving someone for their own good that is different in "Philia" than simply "Agape" love for man...*sigh*

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You're a different person because you read this. Just sayin'

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I think the "I'm feeling lucky" feature on Google has been neglected, it's probably pretty upset with us for using the "Google Search" feature far more often...an example of its awesomeness: type in "nanowrimo" it takes you directly to their website! So...be nice to your "i'm feeling lucky" button.

This has been a minorities/discriminated against spokesperson announcement.

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"There are places in this world that aren't made out of stone. That there's something inside that they can't get to, that they can't touch. Thats you"

This Place is a Prison - The Postal Service.
For a long time people have said that our bodies are prisons, but I always disagreed. After all, God created our bodies, and they are inextricably linked to the mind, or "thought" part of us. But then I was talking with Micah and Mr. Fiore and...I can see it now, though it is now the prison that many people say it is. As Micah said when our minds are joined with our bodies (at our creation) we start to draw on the walls...and make it person, and keep it close to us. In a way we slowly get dirtier and dirtier as we paint our sins on the walls of our prison of a body. "us" in the prison is our mind, and the prison is our body. Our minds change the prison by carrying out actions with it. Eventaully however, when we are saved all the dirt is washed off of our minds, and we are clean. But the prison is not, the prison is still the same old grimy place it always has been. When we sin, it is no longer us sinning but the sin living in us. There are now two of us in the prison, dueling it out, and sometimes the dirty one of us wins. As Paul said, to be absent from the body is to be present with the lord. Our bodies were originally created as a perfect part of our being, but sin has twisted them into prisons for our minds, prisons only death can free us from. I understand now the puritans extremes of calling everything related to the body as evil, such as sex or dilicious food etc.

I'm alone in this world - U2
U2's song "Wake up dead man" starts: "Jesus, Jesus help me. I'm alone in this world, and a f**ked up world it is too." (pardon the language.) In a way, while we do interact with each other, there is always a part of us that is alone in our own minds. No matter how close you get to someone, where is always that part of us that no one but God can touch. No matter how much you are loved or persecuted, in a sense when it comes down to it...we are all alone. We all live alone in a world of 6 billion people. And we let people get closer and closer to what we call "us" or "me" but no one can ever entirely touch it. Our mind is our own. Tyranny has not yet found chains strong enough to hold the mind, or something like that (someone's impromptu quote.). So, our bodies are our prisons, and our mind is our own and only God can know it entirely.

You're all I have. -Snow Parol
"I have no fear 'cause you are all that I have, it's so clear now that you are all that I have." yes, I am misconstruing this song, it's really about a love interest, but I'm stealing it anyway. Because no one can touch us, except Christ. In this world of community and love and friendship, in the dark when we're alone, when our thoughts cannot be distracted by external reality...He is all we have, and we should have no fear because he all we have!

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"They may take our postings...but they'll never take...our FREEDOM"

Disclaimer to Mrs. Au: That title is for effect only...and bears no relation to how I actually feel about the whole postings thing!
I'm not gonna give you a blow-by-blow of the FREEDOM tourament, but I am gonna tell you that it very well may be the best tournament of the year! It was...amazing. I think Mrs. Au deserves the biggest pat on the back ever given, she did something incredible with this tournament, and we are all unspeakably thankful! I love all these people so much! It definitely has put me on an emotional high that will start to run out around...I don't know...Wednesday after next ;) (I just might make it that long!) I definitely compete half for the people there :P talking with Micah about our bodies being prisons and the "objectivity room" and...like the universe and everything else! Micah...I should know you better, but I was too insecure to talk to you enough last you to really get to know you :( Human stupidity strikes again! Becka's victory was....at the very least EPIC (and deserved.) Just...make sure it doesn't go to your head Becka :) Let God be glorified! I....am emotionally drained and at the same time emotionally hyper. It's one of those times where you wonder how anyone can be "emo" or not want to live! It doesn't matter what situation your in! This is the WORLD! It is a beautiful creation! And it needs your help! (not entirely, but you get the picture!) Live! love! Do what is right...just because....it's right!!! Tournaments are beautiful things....people are beautiful...even the ugly ones :P There are times when I want to hug people so tight that I'd crush them! Definitely felt that at freedom...you people...*sigh* I love you more than I could ever say.

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